Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site alberta.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!alberta!makaren From: makaren@alberta.UUCP (Darrell Makarenko) Newsgroups: net.puzzle Subject: Advanced Weighing problem Message-ID: <455@alberta.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Apr-85 13:13:04 EST Article-I.D.: alberta.455 Posted: Thu Apr 18 13:13:04 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Apr-85 01:29:50 EST Distribution: net Organization: U. of Alberta, Edmonton, AB Lines: 24 Ok we have seen the well known weighing problem of the twelve coins, one counterfeit (lighter or heavier) , three weighings find the phoney. Lets generalize the problem as follows. Given that there is one counterfeit in a pile of coins and that it is lighter or heavier than the others (you dont know which). Derive the formula F(n) that will tell you that if you are allowed n weighings on a balance scale what is the maximum number of coins there could be where you could find the counterfeit among them and whether it is heavier or lighter. From the original problem and numerous solutions posted we know that F(3) >= 12. i.e. we can determine a counterfeit in at least twelve coins given three weighings. Derive F, either in closed form or failing that place limits on F eg. F(n) < n!, F(n) > n**2 etc. You dont have to describe the n weighings necessary to find the coin, just the formula as to the max number of coins there could be such that it is possible to find it in n weighings. Post solutions or ideas to net.puzzle.