Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Hitler and Moral Relativism Message-ID: <5472@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sat, 13-Apr-85 14:16:52 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.5472 Posted: Sat Apr 13 14:16:52 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Apr-85 14:16:52 EST References: <487@lll-crg.ARPA> <789@bunker.UUCP> <453@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> <4651@umcp-cs.UUCP>, <467@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 32 From Byron Howes: I don't follow this either. My point about white southerners is simply that despite the fact that many (including myself) consider racism and sexism to be inherently evil, there are others who consider segregation and traditional sexual values to be moral precepts, worth fighting for. (Note the change in words.) These people are by all objective measures very moral people -- following a set of values held strongly in this country up till the last twenty years. Those values are gradually being swept away (or broken up, depending on your point of view) This is a change in values, not a change in the people who subscribe to them. Is this progression to some absolute morality? Make a case for it. This is the great question. Since you believe that racism is inherantly evil is your problem one of ``why is it that these sincere people do not find the truth of this belief obvious'' or is it ``why do I cling to this notion of inherant evils even though there are none''? If it is the first, then I do not see how you can say that there is no absolute morality - it is what makes those things inherantly evil. If it is the second, then I do not see how you can believe that racism is inherantly evil. Whether we are progressing to a greater understanding of an absolutely existing morality is another question. It could be that we are getting less and less enlightened all the time. I tend to doubt that progress could be made in other areas (such as science) and not be made in the area of morals - given, of coruse, that an absolute morality exists. Laura Creighton utzoo!laura