Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcly!holly From: holly@hpfcly.UUCP (holly) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <7600009@hpfcly.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Apr-85 20:02:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcly.7600009 Posted: Wed Apr 17 20:02:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Apr-85 09:47:57 EST References: <-442300@ucla-cs.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 44 Nf-ID: #R:ucla-cs:-442300:hpfcly:7600009:37777777600:2543 Nf-From: hpfcly!holly Apr 18 17:02:00 1985 Joseph Smith did make the statement that he did what Christ failed to do. I do not have my references at hand, but I believe the statement appeared in the History of the Mormon Church. I will find this and quote it to you. Things you said may make a lot of sense to you and others especially since you don't consider the Bible to be the only true word of God. In the Bible God said that time and man could not change the true word. He would see to that. I don't understand how something can be part of your doctrine from the beginning but doesn't show up in your doctrine until a few years ago. God didn't do that with the Bible. I know what is in my heart is good. I can't and never will agree with your doctrines. The resemblence between the Latter Day Saints and the Freemasonary makes me very uncomfortable. Maybe that's something you ought to read up on. One of your own church elders even admitted this at a conference at BYU after which he was required to sign a document stating his loyalty to the church. I am not trying to condemn you, I am very concerned. Read beyond the doctrines of the church. Try some unbiased history books. There are many things I believe that many members of the Latter Day Saints are not aware of. Why was Joseph Smith the only one to see the angels and Christ? Jesus and God made Themselves visible to many people. The Latter Day Saints have based their religion on the "visions" of one man. I don't remember anyone in the Bible having revelations from God through a "seer-stone". God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit came to them in person or through an angel of the Lord and they appeared to many. Where is the justification in what you say besides that Joseph Smith said it? I just don't understand and I doubt that I ever will! Your explanations don't make it any clearer. I feel more troubled than before - not with my faith, but with the teachings of the Latter Day Saints. I guess only God will judge who is right. That's why I have faith and trust in what God and Christ said to us in the Bible. They didn't give the answers to all our questions. That's where the trust and faith come in. We just have to entrust our lives to God and know that he'll take care of us. He promised us that. I honestly believe that your God and my God are not the same. I do not believe that Christ and Satan are spiritual brothers. Please do some reading beyond the boundaries of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Many have and have found the true word of God.