Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!wab From: wab@reed.UUCP (William Baker) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: NofTheBeast - True STINKER Message-ID: <1331@reed.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Apr-85 00:26:11 EST Article-I.D.: reed.1331 Posted: Mon Apr 15 00:26:11 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Apr-85 00:41:06 EST References: <147@yetti.UUCP> Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 57 > > The Number of the Beast > > Attn.: Sci-Fi General advises that DANGER to > mental health increases with amount of NoftB read. ... > Having read SF books from all parts of the spectrum, > [Brunner, Lem, Asimov, Clarke, Sheckley, Farmer, Pohl, > Ellison, Niven, A.D. Foster, P.K. Dick, Hogan, R. Forward, > D. Adams, Varley etc.], I consider this book an insult to SF > readership's intelligence and sensibilities, and it > should be avoided. I had the expectation of something as > good as "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" or "Time Enough > for Love". I forgot that very few SF writers can > live up to their name consistently. > So, close your eyes in your favorite book store, and grab > a SF book at random. The probability is that you > will get something better than NoftB. > > > > Oz > Electric: {ihnp4|decvax|..}!{utzoo|utcs}!yetti!oz > > Now, now, let's not be too hard on old Bob. True, just about everyone thinks that "NoftB" is a real dog. However, don't write off Robert Heinlein on the basis of that book. Yes, it was self-indulgent, almost like reading a bad parody of his earier books. It is true that after one reads two or three of his books, the characters all sound the same, but that is not what makes him a great s.f. writer. It is, instead, his tremendous vision into the future, the fascinating nature of his speculations, that hold the reader. I have read just about everything he has written. Some of his books have offended me (Starship Troopers, Farnham's Freehold) and some have bored me (Number of the Beast and most of his childrens books). Still, I come back for more everytime, and I find it irritating to have to wait until the paperback comes out so that I can afford to read his latest novel. Remember, his next book after "NoftB" was Friday. That was a work up to the standards of Stranger in a Strange Land or The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. As regards your comparison to the list of high-powered s.f. writers, I would suggest you do some homework. Look back sometime and read what Clarke and Asimov have to say about Heinlein and his books. I think you'll find that they're quite appreciative. Joe Haldeman, my pick as the best of the second generation of s.f. writers, makes no bones about it: He grew up reading Heinlein and pays homage to him in many of his books. I'd say that that kind of tribute should suggest something to you. Bill Baker tektronix!reed!wab