Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site npois.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!godot!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!bellcore!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ahuta!npois!jay From: jay@npois.UUCP (Anton Winteroak) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: me? using sexist language? Message-ID: <280@npois.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Apr-85 11:07:51 EST Article-I.D.: npois.280 Posted: Thu Apr 11 11:07:51 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Apr-85 02:34:09 EST Organization: ATTIS, Neptune, NJ Lines: 22 You correctly pointed out some female-negative gender specific comments that I made. I apologise for any offense it caused. I'm speaking of 'women who can manipulate daddy being a constant source of direction'. You also correctly point out that our modern idioms don't so clearly point to parallel situations in men doing manipulating. Not to get off the hook, but just to explain what was in my head when I wrote that stuff. I was answering a young man's query about what to look for in a woman. I strayed into sex-role stereotypes because they are in my experience. I think that men tend to (by training) manipulate in less subtle ways. They can do there share of whining, and what not, but the more common ways that I see have to do with using forcefulness (or even force), pigheadedness, and and going into protective parent mode. Really though, any advice I could give women on what to look for, or look out for in a man, is not based on real lived through it experience. My bias would have me tell you to look for me. There are a lot of gender-specific things in social life today. I don't like to support them when I can avoid it. Thanks for pointing out my error. Anton Winteroak