Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: ``They'' vs. ``one'' vs. nothing Message-ID: <182@spar.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Apr-85 04:30:51 EST Article-I.D.: spar.182 Posted: Tue Apr 16 04:30:51 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Apr-85 04:41:11 EST References: <2379@randvax.UUCP> <291@mhuxr.UUCP> <2396@randvax.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 35 In article <2396@randvax.UUCP> edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) writes: > Is it not > more "natural" to use a pronoun already in wide usage, and with which > most people are at least somewhat familiar, than to force this square > peg of a singular 'they' into the round hole of gender neutrality? > > Marcel Simon More problems with `One' vs. `They' In professional jargon, `they' shares the quality `anaphoric' with the pronouns `he/she', whereas `one' lacks this feature, as below: A. When you see Bill's secretary, be sure you give him/her my memo. Here, the pronoun has anaphoric use; it refers to a previously mentioned specific noun. Which of the below sentences is is more natural? B. When you see Bill's secretary, be sure you give them my memo. C. When you see Bill's secretary, be sure you give one my memo. I'd believe that the vast majority of native english speakers would at least understand (B), but not (C). The quality shared by {they,he,she} but not by {one}, is apparently so important that people are willing to overlook the mismatch in number caused by the use of `they' rather than deal with the total loss of reference caused by the use of `one'. Apparently, Marcel, you value the grammatical category `number' more highly than most english speakers. -michael