Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lsuc.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!dave From: dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics Subject: Re: Re: Ban the new testement with the Zundel law Message-ID: <602@lsuc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Apr-85 16:13:36 EST Article-I.D.: lsuc.602 Posted: Mon Apr 15 16:13:36 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Apr-85 16:28:47 EST References: <407@mnetor.UUCP> <5459@utzoo.UUCP> <260@looking.UUCP> <413@mnetor.UUCP> <414@mnetor.UUCP> Reply-To: dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto Lines: 18 Summary: that's what the jury is for In article <414@mnetor.UUCP> fred@mnetor.UUCP (Fred Williams) writes: || However, can we in good faith take away the principle of the ||accussed being innocent until proven guilty? The answer I would ||give is, "no". There seems to be just too much chance of ||innocent questioning being interpreted wrongly. How can we tell ||that the accused intended to incite hatred? We are not mind ||readers. And if we convict someone who had no intent, have we ||not defeated the right of free speech? That's why we have the jury system. In the Zundel case, a jury of 12 ordinary men and women were convinced, UNANIMOUSLY, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zundel knew what he published was false. I think that says it all. Dave Sherman -- {utzoo pesnta nrcaero utcs hcr}!lsuc!dave {allegra decvax ihnp4 linus}!utcsri!lsuc!dave