Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 GARFIELD 20/11/84; site garfield.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!garfield!robertj From: robertj@garfield.UUCP (Robert Janes) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Zundel(section 177 of CCC) Message-ID: <2731@garfield.UUCP> Date: Sun, 14-Apr-85 16:01:45 EST Article-I.D.: garfield.2731 Posted: Sun Apr 14 16:01:45 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Apr-85 23:23:10 EST References: <890@ubc-vision.CDN> <6@aquila.UUCP> <997@ubc-cs.UUCP> <578@lsuc.UUCP> <1004@ubc-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: robertj@garfield.UUCP (Robert Janes) Organization: Memorial U. of Nfld. C.S. Dept., St. John's Lines: 25 Summary: section 177 not a big problem To be brief, I do not see that section 177 of the criminal code as all that great a danger. The crime of spreading false news has been on the books since well before Confederation in one form or another. Before the Zundel trial there had been a grand total of three prosecutions under this section one of which had been succesful. The reason that 177 was used in the Zundel case was that unlike that the other sections of the CCC concerned with promoting hatred (see Jim Keegstra) charges under this section can be brought by bodies other than the government. The government of Ontario showed no interest in prosecuting Zundel so another body (the Jewish Defense League ??) brought the charges and the Crown Prosecutor was called in because this was a felony charge and in the public interest.... It is unlikely that we will see a spate of such charges in the future simply due to what happened at the Zundel trial. Zundel got one of the biggest soapboxes in Canada and could potray himself as a martyr being persecuted by the government, the Zionists and the Masons. In future we may see such trials taking place in civil courts where the situation is slightly different. As for 177 itself it is a nice law to have around to force the Crown to what it should or maybe should be doing. As long as such trials take place **AFTER** a person has published something and not before I feel there's no need to hunker down on the freedom of speech issue. Robert Janes Memorial University