Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP
Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-lymph!arndt
From: arndt@lymph.DEC
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: The Moral Vacuum - a public school grad??
Message-ID: <1604@decwrl.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 10-Apr-85 16:12:20 EST
Article-I.D.: decwrl.1604
Posted: Wed Apr 10 16:12:20 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 14-Apr-85 20:42:27 EST
Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP
Organization: DEC Engineering Network
Lines: 57

Subject: inconsistencies
Posted: Fri Apr  5 11:46:10 1985


>Ken has made an important point, which many people on both sides overlook:
>
>        If you believe abortion is murder,
>        then it is INCONSISTENT to condemn
>        the people who are bombing abortion clinics.
>

Not really.  It is INCONSISTENT to condemn people who believe abortion is
murder from acting within the LAW on their beliefs (a point that I don't
feel anyone has overlooked), but it is not inconsistant to expect everyone,
on each side of the issue or in the middle, to act within the laws of our
country.

When abortion was illegal, each woman who had an abortion was a criminal--
she didn't get off because her personal beliefs made abortion o.k.  The
laws are made, supposedly, on the basis of majority opinion.  When
everybody else thinks something is o.k., you are certainly entitled to
think it isn't o.k., and not do it yourself, but you aren't entitled to
break other laws to demonstrate your belief.

***********************************************

From Ken Arndt:

The above dialog is VERY interesting.  The reposter directly above believes
we must all obey the LAW even if we hold to other moral views.  The LAW is
the final court of appeal - not conscience!!

Never mind that this kind of thinking stands against yonks of moral philosophy
throughout the history of mankind, or that it displays a child-like 'faith' in
the rightness of the LAW and complete ignorance of how it is formulated or
what it is based on.
                            
HE APPEARS NEVER TO HAVE HEARD OF 'UNJUST' LAWS, EITHER TODAY OR IN THE PAST
(SUCH AS THE AMERICAN DEC. OF INDP.)

According to him, all a dictator has to do is pass a LAW that the LAW can
no longer be changed or resisted and hey presto!  Captive nation.

WHAT THE HECK WERE WWII AND THE WAR CRIMES TRIALS ALL ABOUT????  
             
Remember, "I was just following orders.", is not a defense!!!!!

Back to my point - make it legal to bomb abortion clinics!!!!!!!
The poster above should have no trouble with that once it is LAW.
He even, if he were a member of the police, protect those who do the
bombing, eh?

Regards indeed,

Ken Arndt