Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ncr-tp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdcc6!ncr-tp!greg From: greg@ncr-tp.UUCP (Greg Noel) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: dumber terminal device drivers Message-ID: <171@ncr-tp.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Apr-85 21:54:35 EST Article-I.D.: ncr-tp.171 Posted: Mon Apr 15 21:54:35 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Apr-85 04:40:35 EST References: <327@piggy.UUCP> <2536@nsc.UUCP> <209@osiris.UUCP> <528@hou2d.UUCP> <191@dmsd.UUCP> Reply-To: greg@ncr-tp.UUCP (Greg Noel) Organization: NCR Corporation, Torrey Pines Lines: 27 In article <191@dmsd.UUCP> bass@dmsd.UUCP (John Bass) writes: >The best solution for multiuser systems is to EXPAND the keyboard input >function to include a break bitmap and an echo bit map -- plus extend the >terminal interface to include a 1D line editor with left-right margin control >and max window size - this is a minor change to V7 tty routines and is Humpf..... For a change, I'm agreeing with John! I don't think that it is really an "expansion" of the functionality, though; this is the kind of classic simplification and unification of concepts for which Unix is justly famous. It is, in fact, very close to the functionality that I proposed for a smart terminal front end at one point. Great minds running in similar ways? For another variant on the concept, one of the negiotiated options of Telnet (one of the ARPAnet protocols) is RCTE, which I believe stands for Remote Controlled Transmission and Echoing. The idea was that a user in, say, Hawaii could be connected to a computer on the mainland and still have the advantage of a highly-interactive keyboard. (If the link is via satelite, the propagation delay is very noticable.) There were some race problems with the protocol, but the overall approach was very similar -- download a table that specified break (transmit) characters, echoed characters, and some info about whether to echo the break character or not. Is there somebody in ARPAland with access to the RFC archives that could cite the applicable RFCs? Jon Postel, are you out there? -- -- Greg Noel, NCR Torrey Pines Greg@ncr-tp.UUCP or Greg@nosc.ARPA