Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2.fluke 9/24/84; site vax1.fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!tron From: tron@fluke.UUCP (Peter Barbee) Newsgroups: net.bicycle,net.politics Subject: Re: Bicycles, Violence and Hatred Message-ID: <983@vax1.fluke.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Apr-85 12:06:08 EST Article-I.D.: vax1.983 Posted: Mon Apr 22 12:06:08 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Apr-85 07:22:51 EST References: <1370@reed.UUCP> Reply-To: tron@fluke.UUCP (Peter Barbee) Distribution: net Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 31 Xref: watmath net.bicycle:1087 net.politics:8634 In article <1370@reed.UUCP> kehoe@reed.UUCP (Dave Kehoe) writes: > >ing 39mph in a 30mph zone? Should bicyclists obey traffic >laws when I get run off the road for stopping at a stop >sign? Who is he kidding? > Two quick points, bicyclists should always obey traffic laws. What other people do should have no effect on how we deal with the law. Secondly, and I'm not accussing anyone of doing this, but I haven't had nearly the problem with motorists since I stopped passing them on the right. It seems motorists get annoyed when a bicyclist passes them on the right (while waiting for a stoplight for instance) after this motorist has just legally passed the bicycle. I personally don't blame the motorist. Along the same lines, I now use bike paths whenever possible even though they may be less convenient than the street. One route I frequently travel has a nearby bike path that I used to ignore, I noticed a lot of hostility from motorists along this particular stretch of road. One day I was driving down this street and was annoyed at how a bike was really slowing down traffic, my first thought was "Why doesn't he use the bike path just one block away? It was put there just to relieve this problem." It doesn't do any good to shout and scream "We the bicyclists have rights too!" What does work is to try and work out solutions - sometimes that means you will be doing all the work. There is no doubt that bicyclists are discriminated against and that is can be dangerous to ride in places where it shouldn't be. This is largely the fault of motorists. Unfortunately the motorists have the power now, I don't see the point of pounding my head against a brick wall. Peter B