Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site harvard.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!albert From: albert@harvard.ARPA (David Albert) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Bicycles, Violence and Hatred Message-ID: <66@harvard.ARPA> Date: Mon, 22-Apr-85 10:40:16 EST Article-I.D.: harvard.66 Posted: Mon Apr 22 10:40:16 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Apr-85 08:19:46 EST References: <1370@reed.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Aiken Computation Laboratory, Harvard Lines: 39 > Well, the bicyclists at the meeting began to say that > both the second and fourth alternatives were good ideas, but > then several non-bicyclists began expressing their opinions. ... > I wish that I could sum up this essay with a positive > conclusion, but I can't. What is there but hatred and fear > on the streets out there? How can anyone change that? I > wish I knew. > > Dave Kehoe About half of my drive to work each day is through Cambridge, MA, with a large cyclist population, and I pass about 15 bicyles every morning. With two exceptions, I have never had any cause to complain of their on-road conduct, and fortunately on the two occasions when a cyclist darted in front of me suddenly, I was able to stop safely. Unfortunately, however, even a very small number of such incidents can sour motorist-cyclist relationships. I am quite nervous each time I approach a bicycle on the road, and have a hard time passing them for fear that they will cause an accident -- for which I, as the motorist, would be held responsible. I realize that I am a somewhat timid driver, but I venture that other drivers react to similar feelings with the hostility you mentioned in your article. It is unfortunate that the actions of a few bikers should cause such widespread dislike. Is there a solution to this problem? How would bikers feel about a "biker's license" that would be required of all on-street bikers? Perhaps such a measure would serve to remind bikers that they are also required to obey the traffic laws. This is just a suggestion. Do similar feelings exist in other countries? Amsterdam: you should be in a good position to respond! -- David Albert ihnp4!seismo!harvard!albert (albert@harvard.ARPA)