Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site cbosgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!rbg From: rbg@cbosgd.UUCP (Richard Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: net.bio Subject: Re: Left and Right Brain (Bicameral Mind) Message-ID: <1078@cbosgd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 24-Apr-85 07:42:05 EST Article-I.D.: cbosgd.1078 Posted: Wed Apr 24 07:42:05 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Apr-85 03:19:10 EST References: <14006@watmath.UUCP> <499@petsd.UUCP> Organization: Columbus Bell Labs, Silver Lining Lines: 31 In article <499@petsd.UUCP>, cjh@petsd.UUCP (Chris Henrich) writes: > I read Jaynes's book and found it interesting, but *very* > unconvincing. He seems to be of two minds (ooops) about the > nature of the "breakdown" - did the "right" brain get pushed > aside altogether, or does it now co-ordinate its functions > with the "left" brain so well that normally the difference is > imperceptible? And he is quite incoherent about the causes of > the change. > > It was a decent science-fiction idea, and somebody used it > recently in _Analog_. > UUCP: ..!(cornell | ariel | ukc | houxz)!vax135!petsd!cjh As someone who has devoted roughly 10 years to brain research (including a Ph.D. doing neuroanatomy), most of the right-left brain stuff to pass through this group has a low factual content, about on a par with that provided by Jaynes. I also found his arguments about the brain unconvincing and there were some clear factual errors on the neuroscience side. But to write off this book as science fiction is a mistake. It makes an very valuable contribution to understanding the origin of consciousness as an epiphenomenon of language evolution. The definition of consciousness, and historical and linguistic analysis related to that definition were insightful. Language remains one of the most mysterious cornerstones of human evolution, and if you can ignore some of the places where Jaynes clearly exceeds the realm of his expertise, it is a profound book. Rich Goldschmidt {ucbvax,ihnp4,decvax,allegra,seismo} !cbosgd!rbg ARPA: cbosgd!rbg@seismo or cbosgd!rbg@ucbvax -- Rich Goldschmidt {ucbvax,ihnp4,decvax,allegra,ulysses} !cbosgd!rbg ARPA: cbosgd!rbg@ucbvax