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From: jrh@bunker.UUCP (Jeff Hagen)
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Re: Re:  Mothers in restaurants
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Date: Wed, 10-Apr-85 16:50:14 EST
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Posted: Wed Apr 10 16:50:14 1985
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In response to the screaming kid in the restaurant discussion:

To parents:

Parents always miss this point:  Having a kid is a choice.
It is a choice you make for me as well as yourself.  When
you make that choice, it is just like you taking say $100,000
of my money and playing the stock market.  If you do a good job
on the market, in 20 years we'll both be rich.  But, in the short
term, I'm out $100,000, and I didn't have a say in it.  

In the long term, a tax paying employed individual is to my 
advantage. The short term is very expensive - an expense you
impose on me with your choice. How expensive?

With every kid:

      I have to pay for your schools
      I have to pay for your day care
      I have to pay for your welfare ( the old "kids shouldn't
           suffer for parents mistakes" argument)
      I have to pay more taxes (my dog's expenses are not deductable)
      I have to pay for your kid's jail when you screw up ( remember
           the kid goes to jail not you )
      I have to pay even for your kid's swimming lessons ( True in
           my neighborhood. )
      The number of beer cans in my front yard will increase
           exponentially ( unless the deposit is $5 per can )

and finally least important,

      On occasion I have to listen to a squalling urchin in a
           restaurant (I now know what to do with that dirty napkin)

Even if you don't use public schools, don't use day care etc. you still
are imposing on me. These institutions will always be there if you
or your kid needs them.  It is in a sense an insurance policy
that I buy for your kid. 
Now, when your kid is running through my yard in the middle 
of the night, there isn't a damn thing I can do
about it.  Its not my yard I'm worried about; its the kid.
If I call the cops they won't do anything. If they catch
them they'll just talk mean and tough and take him home.
If I catch him and take him home you'll be very indignant
and probably sue me since "little Johnny doesn't do that sort of thing."
The bottom line is I have to pay with no say.

After you have the kid I'll be behind you 100% for the kids sake.
I just want you to consider the real imposition you make on the
rest of society who chooses not to bilk the public for their own
selfish ends. flame off.

                                   Jeff Hagen
                                   decvax!bunker!jrh