Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site abnji.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!mhuxv!abnji!nyssa From: nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: re screaming kids Message-ID: <555@abnji.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Apr-85 08:52:23 EST Article-I.D.: abnji.555 Posted: Mon Apr 15 08:52:23 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Apr-85 00:42:42 EST References: <262@h-sc1.UUCP> Organization: Terminus Hospital, Incorporated Lines: 60 >> The most annoying, for me, is when those little objects are on board an >> airplane, there is no escape! At least you can walk out of restaurants. >> > >First of all, let me say I agree with the general point of this discussion. >If I go out to a nice dinner, I think noisy kids are a real distraction and >that it's very unfair of the parents to bring them. However, I have three >points to make: > > 1. If you're at a fast food place, I think you just have to put up > with it. After all, parents have to take their kids out sometimes. I don't eat at fast food places. I prefer something with nutritional value. (I also don't eat on airplanes.) > 2. I think the above quoted point is really inconsiderate. Are children > not supposed to ever travel? Or do you expect the parents to drive > hundreds of miles with the kids in the back seat, just to be more > convenient for you? Children, especially little children, sometimes > react badly to the change in pressure, or just the fact of flight. It > won't hurt them, but it could upset them. Seems you could have a little > consideration for the children at least! The problem I have is what kind of person would want to bring a 2 month old child on a trip to Europe? And why do they always sit within two rows of me? (Actually, it would be nice if they drove across the Atlantic! :-) The frequency of these trips is quite high (Around 1% of the passengers are young children). I prefer a bit of sleep on the plane to sleep on the ground, it seems preferable, but often the children make it impossible. > 3. To me, a screaming child is no more (and probably less) annoying than > somebody smoking a cigarette (especially in a restaurant). Do all > those of you who advocate regulations about young children advocate > at least equally strong regulations about smoking? Think before you > answer this question. I never said I advocated regulations, but social conventions, with respect to children. Smoking is another matter. So far, 3 grandparents have been killed by smoking, and 1 uncle. 1 mother will probably be dead in the near future, and one sister is going down that road. My father's ability to breathe is severely hampered by cigarette smoke (a fact we've been trying to convince my mother about), and I seem to have inherited that trait. I once required medical attention due to second hand smoke, it causes my lungs to stop working. For these reasons, and for the evidence of risk of second hand smoke, I strongly advocate laws banning smoking in all public places. I also advocate banning all tobacco advertising. (It was really irksome watch- ing the Mets yesterday with that huge Marlboro sign in center field. That ought not be shown on TV, it is free advertising!) -- James C. Armstrong, Jnr. ihnp4!abnji!nyssa The cameras are still on, let the show begin! I want to hear them scream, until I'm deaf with pleasure! I want to see their limbs twist in excruciating pain! Ultimately, their blood must gush and flow through all the gutters of Varos!