Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site usl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!akgub!usl!jla From: jla@usl.UUCP (Joe Arceneaux) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame,net.legal Subject: Re: Re: Personal Defense Message-ID: <430@usl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Apr-85 19:20:58 EST Article-I.D.: usl.430 Posted: Tue Apr 16 19:20:58 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Apr-85 04:22:34 EST References: <350@idis.UUCP> <497@abnji.UUCP> <572@ahuta.UUCP> <498@lll-crg.ARPA> <419@utai.UUCP> Reply-To: jla@usl.UUCP (Joe Arceneaux) Organization: University of (SW) Louisiana Lines: 29 Xref: watmath net.politics:8552 net.flame:9319 net.legal:1563 Summary: In article <419@utai.UUCP> west@utai.UUCP (Thomas L. West) writes: >Eugene D. Brooks III writes: >>I agree that the probability of good citizens getting hurt accidentally >>goes up by epsilon each time a good citizen carries a weapon. You are >>missing an important factor that offsets this negative. A good citizen >>carrying a weapon is in a position to help someone else being attacked. >>The probability of a well trained individual helping another is far greater >>than hurting someone by accident. > > Hold it right there. Do you have *any* facts, figures, articles or >*anything* to back this up. My strong guess is that you are 180 degrees >out, and that far more people are injured by "good citizens" than are >"saved" by other "good citizens" coming to their rescue. All I ask for > > Tom West >ihnp4!utcsri!west My own feeling is that weapons, whatever they may be (including martial arts), are dangerous not only to other local citizens, but even to one's self if one is UNTRAINED in using them. My personal experience is that most people ARE pretty inexperienced with the weapons they carry. *Especially* guns. ------- Joseph Arceneaux {akgua, ut-sally}!usl!jla