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From: hokey@plus5.UUCP (Hokey)
Newsgroups: net.mail
Subject: Re: Uucp mail headers
Message-ID: <713@plus5.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 25-Apr-85 14:12:50 EST
Article-I.D.: plus5.713
Posted: Thu Apr 25 14:12:50 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 26-Apr-85 07:40:35 EST
References: <698@plus5.UUCP> <641@vortex.UUCP>
Organization: Plus Five Computer Services, St. Louis
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Summary: Received vs. Sent-by, and site-stripping in >From

I don't really care about what the line containing the timestamp which
only exists in a >From line is called.  Mark believes putting this non-
local addition in a Received: line is misleading, as the info wasn't
added at the indicated site.  For all I care, the >From lines could be
kept around, except that sendmail won't keep the >From lines around.

As for site-stripping, the addition of Received/Sent-by lines will
provide the same path information that the full >From line does.

This is a chicken/egg problem.  People who use domain or smart mailers
won't need the optimization.  Sites that don't/can't change their mail
software don't use domain routing.  These are the sites that cause all
the horrible paths.

Therefore, the solution to this problem must come from somewhere other
than the mail software.  The only logical place is from within news.

If the news reply software automatically stripped everything between
the first and last domain name in the Path: line, then mailers would
not have to optimize paths, people who use domain mail addresses would
not suffer, people who don't or can't use domain mail addresses would
see how to get mail to other net, and the number of gross paths would
decline.  We might also begin to see an end to the "How do I send mail
to my friends on FishNet?" postings (dream on).
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