Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sytek!syteka!jtm From: jtm@syteka.UUCP (Jim McCrae) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: What is this thing called life? Message-ID: <519@syteka.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Apr-85 16:12:51 EST Article-I.D.: syteka.519 Posted: Thu Apr 18 16:12:51 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Apr-85 05:55:19 EST References: cybvax0.453 Lines: 25 Open question here. Everyone can have a shot at it. Leif de HP's sci-fi case for creationism opened with the assertion that the evolution paradigm demands that life arise from non-life. Now I've never seen this anywhere and I've scarfed down more than my share of text on evolution. In fact, I don't recall that theorists discussing evolution even touch the subject of life versus rocks except as personal opinion footnotes. If anyone has any strong feelings, or better yet references, on this I'd appreciate seeing them. Myself, I find the notion of life separated from non-life to be a reflection of the conscious being's conclusion that consciousness appears to disappear at the time of death, so it must go to the non-life state. Following, anyone? In other words, us humanoids have made up "life" as an anthropomorphism describing how we are distinct from the rocks and water et al, when there is in fact no evidence that the lack of functional organization in a rock precludes it from membership in the club of things that have "life". If I'm wrong about this and evolution does accept as a premise that life emerged from non-living stuff, then someone please straighten me out. (Is non-life dead? Or UNDEAD!!!? Aaaoooooo!!) Jim McCrae / Sytek / Mountain View CA {hplabs,decvax}!sytek!jtm The opinions expressed are true and sytek backs me 100%.