Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: What is this thing called life? Message-ID: <799@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Apr-85 17:04:04 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxt.799 Posted: Mon Apr 22 17:04:04 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Apr-85 06:39:30 EST References: cybvax0.453 <519@syteka.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 34 > Open question here. Everyone can have a shot at it. Leif de HP's > sci-fi case for creationism opened with the assertion that > the evolution paradigm demands that life arise from non-life. > Now I've never seen this anywhere and I've scarfed down more > than my share of text on evolution. In fact, I don't recall that > theorists discussing evolution even touch the subject of life > versus rocks except as personal opinion footnotes. > > If I'm wrong about this and evolution does accept as a premise > that life emerged from non-living stuff, then someone please > straighten me out. (Is non-life dead? Or UNDEAD!!!? Aaaoooooo!!) > > Jim McCrae / Sytek / Mountain View CA {hplabs,decvax}!sytek!jtm You're not wrong. The theory of evolution applies to how speciation occurs, not to how life arose origionally. Whether life arose from nonlife or was planted by aliens or was zapped into being by some all-powerful godlike being is immaterial to the theory of evolution. However, the theory of creation addresses both the origin of life and the origin of species, and since most creationists see evolution as diametrically opposed to evolution, many creationists think that the theory of evolution would be somehow deficient if failed to address both issues as well. (actually, the creationists' theory doesn't really address the issue of the origin of life, they just say that gawd created it, and fervently ignore anyone boorish enough to ask who created gawd.) Creationists also like to tie the idea of (life <= nonlife) to evolution since there is comparatively little evidence for this idea (unless you count the fact that we exist) and that makes it much easier to snipe away at than at evolution itself. -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "But if we took out the bones, it wouldn't be crunchy, now, would it?"