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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Policy Statements, et al
Message-ID: <412@psivax.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 23-Apr-85 19:52:52 EST
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Posted: Tue Apr 23 19:52:52 1985
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In article <908@uwmacc.UUCP> dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) writes:
>
>These statements, of course, are complete smokescreens put out by the evolu-
>tionists.  Why do I say this?  Four reasons:
>1) Although it may be true that not *all* net creationists have stated exactly
>   where they stand on minor subtopics such as progressive/special, old/young
>   earth, etc. it also remains true that NO net evolutionist, so far as I can
>   recall, has stated his particular position on evolutionary disagreements,
>   e.g., gradualism/PE, Leakey/Johanson's view of Australopithecus, etc.

	I have not said anything about these questions because I have
never felt them to be relevent to what I was saying. However to clear
the air a little here are my answers.  As far as the PE/gradualism
issu is concerned, I stand somewhere in the middle. I feel that the
more extreme claims of the die-hard Punctuated Equilibrium school
are overgeneralizations or poorly supported by data, however I also
feel there is much evidence for highly variable rates of change and
*relative* stability in established species. This moderated PE stand
is similar to that of Ernst Mayr or Dr Stebbins or Dr Hickey.  I am
generally skeptical of Dr Leakey's work, since he seems to have an
axe to grind, and his objectivity is therefor suspect. I probably do
not entirely agree with Dr Johanson either. In fact in general I try
to evaluate the evidence myself and draw my own conclusions. By the
way, I feel the evidence for "warm-blooded" dinosaurs is quite
convincing.

>2) Since creationists, like evolutionists, are diverse, it stands to reason
>   that we won't always agree on all subpoints.  To then demand of us some
>   perfect unified statement is obviously absurd.

	I agree here, I hope I have never been at fault here.

>A. Ray Miller
>Univ Illinois
>/* End of text from uiucdcsb:net.origins */

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				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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