Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttrdc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!mgnetp!ltuxa!ttrdc!mjk From: mjk@ttrdc.UUCP (Mike Kelly) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Social Programs Cause the Deficit Message-ID: <134@ttrdc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Apr-85 11:09:50 EST Article-I.D.: ttrdc.134 Posted: Tue Apr 16 11:09:50 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Apr-85 05:12:30 EST References: <121@ttrdc.UUCP>, <1340018@acf4.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Teletype Corp., Skokie, IL Lines: 47 >From: mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) >I may not be a "f*ckig genius," but it seems to me that the deficit is not >the problem. Remember that the deficit is not a real quantity but the >difference between two real quantities, revenues and spending. Thus, >either revenues (taxes, etc.) are too low, spending is too high, or taxes >are too low and spending is too high. Note, it may be that spending >and taxes are both too high (spending being much more so), or that both >spending and taxes are too low (taxes being much more so). > Ah, but Ronald Reagan ran for the Presidency of this country with three promises: he was going to reduce taxes, increase military spending and lower the deficit. When asked how he could do that without using drugs, he pulled out the already-discredited theory of some California economist. The point is the theory didn't work. He did reduce taxes -- for some. He did increase military spending -- enormously. But he didn't reduce the deficit. In fact, he has, in four years, run up a higher debt than that of all previous Presidents *combined*. He is undoubtedly the luckiest President since Dwight Eisenhower. Massive foreign investment has funded his deficit spending, and so far, the bubble hasn't burst. But when it does, he will go down in history as another Herbert Hoover. >Whether or not social security benefits some people or not is beside the >point. What you must consider is if we'd be better off if people pro- >vided for their old age themselves, through savings, counting on their >children or whatever. > >I went to private primary and secondary schools ... >I currently attend graduate school and receive no federal aid ... Well, congratulations on being born into a family wealthy enough to pay for all that. That certainly was smart of you! But, tell me, what does NYU cost per year now, and how many students are attending without any financial aid? And I believe that for most people, if they did not directly benefit from the programs of the New Deal, their parents or grandparents did, and that contributed to the priviledged position they are in now. Ronald Reagan, by the way, is an example of this; his father held a WPA job during the 30s. Mike Kelly