Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: The origin of ownership--THE libertarian stand Message-ID: <795@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Apr-85 13:40:09 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxt.795 Posted: Wed Apr 17 13:40:09 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Apr-85 04:54:14 EST References: <886@wucs.UUCP> <1216@topaz.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 32 > Suppose someone appropriated your body while you were sleeping > (and thus not making use of it). I don't know about *you*, but even when I'm sleeping, I use my body to breath, etc. In fact, since the word 'body' includes my brain, my body *is* me. I wish I had a copy of the origional article here, but I think the theory being discussed allowed the 'appropriation' only of unused *and* unowned property. If I own a piece of property by virtue of using it, my claim lapses when I cease using it. If on the other hand, I own it because I paid everyone else in society not to use that property, my claim to that property continues whether I use it or not. I can also own something because I manufactured it out of abundant materials; in this case too, my ownership does not cease when I cease to use it. In the case of my body, it was origionally manufactured out of things my parents purchased; it was given to me by my parents, and I have used only things which I have purchased (food) and abundant things (air, water) to improve it since then. It is *not* unowned property, and my ownership of it is unaffected by whether I use it or not. > > I disagree with the derivation of property rights from non-agression > principles (even though it is quite logically consistent); the > example above may help to show why. It doesn't. In fact, the example above is completely at odds with the theory of property rights which has been presented. > > --JoSH -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "I never met a man I didn't like."- M. Trudeau