Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sfmag.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!samet From: samet@sfmag.UUCP (A.I.Samet) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: "Naive" Poskim Message-ID: <551@sfmag.UUCP> Date: Sun, 21-Apr-85 16:15:24 EST Article-I.D.: sfmag.551 Posted: Sun Apr 21 16:15:24 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 22-Apr-85 01:33:54 EST References: <278@unm-la.UUCP> <1378@aecom.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Summit, NJ Lines: 45 > Just as an aside. R. Moshe is only as smart in modern technology as > the prson who aks him a question. R. Moshe's knowledge of physics and > chemistry is severly limited ( to put it nicely ). If a person asks him a > question regarding the use of a shabbat elevator, the answer would depend on > the person's ability to explain the exact mechanics of the elevator. > Eliyahu Teitz. Eliyahu, despite what some people say, Reb Moshe is NOT more naive than we are. The secular courts must often consider technical issues which are beyond the expertise of the judges. They can, however, handle such issues - by soliciting testimony from experts. Part of the process is to examine the credentials and the possible biases/interests of the experts offering testimony. Rabbis are often faced with the same type of problem. An experienced rav or posek knows that he must determine what sources are reliable for technical issues and will not issue a ruling without getting reliable information from an expert. This is routine, for instance, in matters of kashrus, where chemicals and processing are involved. For instance, there is currently a serious kashrus problem concerning bugs in vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage etc. (due to a reduction in the use of insecticides). Some rabbis I know are currently collecting data from the department of agriculture, the FDA, universities, professors, farmers, rabbis around the world, and others, concerning infestation of parasites in vegetables. They have spent months visiting farms, researching data and halacha on these issues, as well as conducting their own experiments. This search is being conducted after having consulted with Rav Moshe Feinstein who gave them halachic guidance, part of which addressed the need for reliable data, and the criteria for acceptability of such data. It is silly to assume that reknowned poskim are more naive than we are concerning the need for obtaining correct inputs for their decisions. I've seen from personal experience, that poskim are scrupulously careful to avoid being exploited or duped by people posing shaylas. Anyone who examines Rav Moshe's teshuvas can verify that he cites medical opinions when he relies on them, and that he is shrewd in evaluating the reliability of such opinions. That's part of the job of a posek. Yitzchok Samet