Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!godot!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-kirk!williams From: williams@kirk.DEC (John Williams 223-3402) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: What you never saw Part I Message-ID: <1547@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Apr-85 14:12:57 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.1547 Posted: Mon Apr 8 14:12:57 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Apr-85 03:49:43 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 67 From: RHEA::DECWRL::"sun!rhiannon!sunny" "Ms. Sunny Kirsten" 5-APR-1985 15:20 To: decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-kirk!williams Subj: RE: Egocentricity Received: from DECWRL by DEC-RHEA with SMTP; Fri, 5 Apr 85 12:14-PST Received: by decwrl.ARPA (4.22.01/4.7.34) id AA25106; Fri, 5 Apr 85 12:15:44 pst Received: from rhiannon.sun.uucp by sun.uucp (1.3/SMI-1.2) id AA18073; Fri, 5 Apr 85 11:58:51 pst Received: by rhiannon.sun.uucp (4.24/3.14) id AA00396; Fri, 5 Apr 85 11:58:34 pst Date: Fri, 5 Apr 85 11:58:34 pst Return-Path: Message-Id: <8504051958.AA00396@rhiannon.sun.uucp> Return to Sender Addressee Refused Receipt Remove from Mailing List -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-kirk!williams Fri Apr 5 11:38:44 1985 Received: from sun.uucp by rhiannon.sun.uucp (4.24/3.14) id AA00268; Fri, 5 Apr 85 11:38:36 pst Return-Path: Received: by sun.uucp (1.3/SMI-1.2) id AA16476; Fri, 5 Apr 85 10:40:04 pst Received: from DEC-RHEA.ARPA by decwrl.ARPA (4.22.01/4.7.34) id AA22212; Fri, 5 Apr 85 08:53:35 pst Message-Id: <8504051653.AA22212@decwrl.ARPA> Date: Friday, 5 Apr 1985 08:51:08-PST >From: decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-kirk!williams (John Williams 223-3402) To: rhiannon!sunny@sun.uucp Subject: Egocentricity Status: R The theory of relativity, ( I'll assume you know more or less what that is ) is based on the concept that the nature of the universe is " independent " of you point of observation, or, if you will, your " reference frame ", " perspective ", etc. When you speak of UFO's, you tend to confuse rumor with scientific fact. And how's this for spiritual guidance, you should be able to accept the truth, and not let your presumptions change your observations. Einstein's theories have been demonstrated, yours have not. This is the basis of my disagreement with you. I can not allow you to promote a theory that is inconsistent with what has been scientifically documented without substantial evidence. I might add, that the concept behind relativity, that is, that your observations of physical laws are independent of your position, is the same concept that has turned science away from egocentricity, that man is the center of the universe. I don't see why you insist on placing yourself as the center of reality beyond it's simple egotistical appeal, that is, a heightened sense of self-importance. You have let your ego shape your theories, and it is precisely this that makes it so difficult for me to convince you of your error in judgement. John