Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site houxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!gregbo From: gregbo@houxm.UUCP (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.women Subject: Re: dates Message-ID: <1205@houxm.UUCP> Date: Sat, 20-Apr-85 07:59:44 EST Article-I.D.: houxm.1205 Posted: Sat Apr 20 07:59:44 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Apr-85 05:35:13 EST References: <180@mhuxl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 61 Xref: watmath net.singles:6725 net.women:4821 > From: ssk@mhuxl.UUCP (KIOUSSOPOULOS) > Recently I moved to New Jersey from Colorado for my job. > I have noticed at clubs that all the girls dance together > and all the guys stand around and drink. Is there a reason > these men go to clubs? I go to dance, but, no asks me or anyone > else. This is a big difference to me, coming from Colorado. Finally, I have found somebody who noticed the same things I did when I first started going to clubs! Tell me, what clubs do you go to? I go to some down along Route 35 in Sayreville (for those not in the know, this is where the Jersey Shore starts). Anyhow, I've noticed the same thing and I came to a couple of partial conclu- sions. The girls who come to these clubs usually work or go to school or live reasonably close to each other, so on weekends they just sort of pile into a car and head for their favorite club. They come primarily to dance with each other. Some have male friends who work at the clubs, or know guys who come there, and they'll dance with them, but they don't usually dance with anyone they don't know. I've noticed that the guys who go to clubs usually do sit around and drink and don't dance. If they came with women the women will usu- ally try to get them to dance. Some do, but others just sit around drinking while the women dance with other women. It seems to me that they don't really want to dance. When I was in college I knew a lot of guys who didn't go to parties to dance, but to pick up women, so that may be a motivation. It's possible that the women will allow guys to buy drinks for them, and one thing may lead to another. Once when I was in a club, I was talking to another guy. We were both complain- ing that none of the women wanted to dance except with each other. He said that if you use sympathy on them, they'll dance with you. You can act as if you haven't had a dance all night, which will probably be true anyway. Another guy I met just got disgusted and left, saying the women were just a bunch of les- bians (note: this is NOT my opinion, so don't flame me). In the few times I've been able to strike up conversations with the women who go to these clubs, I've gotten the impression that they were just there to dance and not really to meet guys. Maybe they've just gotten disgusted with guys who sit around and drink all night -- I dunno. One thing that irritates me is when a good-looking women's boyfriend will be drinking all night, and she's just sort of hanging around him. If I was going out with someone, I'd try to be sensitive to what they wanted to do, so I'd do some dancing. (I like to dance, by the way, so that doesn't apply, but I'd try to enjoy something I don't really enjoy, like an art exhibit.) Anyhow, I've sort of given up on those clubs anyway because I don't really like the kind of women that go to them. I'd much rather party with some good friends, that way everyone knows each other and doesn't have to be shy or coy and just have a good time. Do any of the women who read this group go out dancing? Do you go with a date or with other women? How do you feel when no one asks you to dance? How do you feel when even your boyfriend won't ask you to dance? -- ... hey, we've gotta get out of this place, there's got to be something better than this ... Greg Skinner (gregbo) {allegra,cbosgd,ihnp4}!houxm!gregbo gregbo%houxm.uucp@harvard.arpa