Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lsuc.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!jimomura From: jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Zundel etc. Message-ID: <635@lsuc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 23:34:36 EDT Article-I.D.: lsuc.635 Posted: Thu May 2 23:34:36 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 3-May-85 00:41:14 EDT References: <7197@watdaisy.UUCP> <628@lsuc.UUCP> <1039@ubc-cs.UUCP> <634@lsuc.UUCP> Reply-To: jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) Distribution: can Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto Lines: 20 Summary: Oversimplifed You know, actually, I should apologies for oversimplying the whole of German history. Yes, I know about the 'electing' of Hitler. Still, my premise is that political power, at it's base, is always a fair reflection of at least a sizable chunk of any population. You *can't* hold power unless you can back it up with muscle. This amount of muscle depends on how big the scisms are, but the 'police' are always there to enforce the majorities opinion of proper conduct (notice that I deliberately avoid the word 'Justice'). I maintain also that the proper role of the courts always has been and *should* be the maintenance of public order. Governments *never* have more power than the people under them allow. Yes, I even include Communist Russia. If the people wanted to overthrow their government, they would. As it is, I expect it to change. China's just ahead of them in that respect. To get back to Zundel's case, for all the hot air expelled over it, I doubt whether we'll see many (if any cases) again in our lifetimes. It's a low probability expectation because we *do* value freedom of speech. No, Mr. R., you are not the only one who cares about it. It's just that some of us look at more than just one aspect of life/freedom/pursuit of happiness etc.