Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxlm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!whuxlm!mag From: mag@whuxlm.UUCP (Gray Michael A) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Seat Belts - blaming the victim Message-ID: <757@whuxlm.UUCP> Date: Sat, 4-May-85 15:48:59 EDT Article-I.D.: whuxlm.757 Posted: Sat May 4 15:48:59 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 5-May-85 03:57:33 EDT References: <689@ssc-vax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 32 > Just how much extra would it cost to make a car safer? About six > years ago, the Dept. of Transportation design a car. It was very > attractive (looked similar to a Camero) and were fuel efficient (use > an Honda engine) and the chances of surviving hitting a brick wall > head-on at 55 mph were above 80%. The chances of surviving a > side-ways crash were less, but still well above what any car being > produced could do. They built the car for around $8000 (1979 > dollars). The Dept's position was that if the gov't could built one > car for this amount, then the private sector could mass-produce them > for a lot less and still make a profit. > > Jay T. McCanta Come ON!! Nobody could build a prototype car for $8000! It costs hundreds of thousands just to prototype a body! This needs support. Probably, what really happened is that they spent millions and millions of dollars building a few prototypes that survived 55 mph head-ons reliably. THEN, they sat down and ESTIMATED that a private manufacturer could do it for $8000. I'd like to see evidence that such an estimate was in any way reliable. Also, in 1979 $8000 would get you a decent car with power-almost everything, stereo, AC, and several other goodies. Did these features exist on the prorotype? Probably not. Were they included in the estimate? I doubt it. Anyway, $8000 then is like about $11,000 in todays dollars. If they could make a car that had that amount of safety and compared well with current cars in features, they'd DO IT! All you need are about 1 million safety fanatics to make a profit. I'd buy it. I have a hunch that such a safe car would cost about $25,000 to build, though. At that price, most people couldn't afford it. Those who could afford it would probably use the money to buy luxury and performance. Mike Gray