Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ritcv.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!ritcv!mjl From: mjl@ritcv.UUCP (Mike Lutz) Newsgroups: net.college,net.cse Subject: Re: Univ. of VT chooses AT&T pc's Message-ID: <45@ritcv.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-May-85 20:52:01 EDT Article-I.D.: ritcv.45 Posted: Wed May 1 20:52:01 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 3-May-85 04:48:17 EDT References: <376@uvm-cs.UUCP> <285@h-sc1.UUCP> <164@mcc-db.UUCP> <4171@hlexa.UUCP> <10432@brunix.UUCP> Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Lines: 42 Xref: watmath net.college:715 net.cse:377 We had a big go around like this about 3 years ago at RIT. At the time it was all the rage to have every student purchase a PC: it provided nice publicity for the institution (makes you look futuristic) and solves big space and facilities problems. (A faculty member from one of the first schools to require PC purchases told me it was great: now he could get *his* work done on the main computers!) The faculty committee I was on, however, recommended that we not require students to purchase PC's. Our reasons, among others, were: 1. Obsolescence. Anything a freshman bought on credit would be out of date by the time he or she graduated (5 years here, given our co-op program). 2. Curricular rigidity. If everyone *has* to buy a BANANA PC 9000, then, by God, the school has to *guarantee* that it is useful. In particular, this means many classes (in our case, computer science courses) would be taught using this equipment whether or not it was appropriate. Given that we and many other departments have a heavy financial and philosophical investment in sophisticated, professional equipment, we viewed this as an infringement on our control over our programs. 3. Diverse needs. This was a particularly tricky one. What we wanted in computer science -- a modern s/w development system -- was not at all what the College of Business wanted, and their needs, in turn, were distinct from those of the Engineering College, etc., etc. No one system then, and none since, was appropriate for all these clients. The slide-rule analogy breaks down here -- there are only a couple of things you can do with a slide rule (and only one it was designed for :-). So -- we punted. We arranged reasonably attractive deals on some PCs in our bookstore, and we are working to make the main systems more accessible to those with micros. We hope to have a larger variety of PCs around, and we'd like to encourage (but not require) our students to purchase "appropriate" systems. Even now, though, the price of a UNIX-based system that would stand a CS major in good stead for 5 years is beyond the means of most of our students. In retrospect, I think we made the right decision, and I believe it is still correct. Mike Lutz -- Mike Lutz Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester NY UUCP: {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!mjl CSNET: mjl%rit@csnet-relay.ARPA