Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 7/1/84; site wuphys.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!mgnetp!we53!busch!wuphys!fek From: fek@wuphys.UUCP (Frank Kramer) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: what does your management think of you? Message-ID: <269@wuphys.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Apr-85 09:29:50 EDT Article-I.D.: wuphys.269 Posted: Sat Apr 27 09:29:50 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Apr-85 02:13:03 EDT References: <1844@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Physics Dept., Washington Univ. in St. Louis Lines: 27 Regarding the statement that programmers aren't familiar with standard business practices: 1) I've done programming for business and academic applications and much prefer the latter. It is my experience that the academicians generally know what they want and the businessmen don't. That's why most programmers in DP are busy doing program maintenance. Those "standards" change hourly. 2) The print statement is a damn good debugging tool. It's used for a reason. 3) I suspect that the reason for the man's impatience with programmers is a lack of understanding as to what is really required to make a program work correctly. He's probably watched some of the popular television shows that depict a programmer who can do anything in the world with less than ten keystrokes. 4) All you have to do is watch some of the business programs on your local PBS station to get an idea of how well those "standard business practices" really work. That's all Frank