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From: london@oddjob.UUCP (David London)
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: more idiocy from alice!jj
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Date: Mon, 29-Apr-85 15:04:29 EDT
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Posted: Mon Apr 29 15:04:29 1985
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>> me 
> alice!jj

>> Aside: For those of you new to net.flame, since it is in one's intellectual
>> .....
>> article); rather he fancies himself as a "thinking" man (by the way, 
>> I assume that he is male - I doubt a woman would refer to Geraldine 
>> Ferraro as "The Beaver"), one who looks at both sides of an issue before
>> deciding what his position is. <-- Note: dripping sarcasm. End aside.

> This is where I start to get angry.  Mr. Oddjob here seems to think
> that it's ok to lie outright about people.  I haven't refered to
> GF as "the Beaver".  I don't know why this person sees fit to 
> lie, but I bloody well expect a retraction.

First of all, alice!jj *did* refer to GF as "The Beaver". In a letter he
wrote to me, he asked rhetorically,
     "Well, who would you vote for? Reagan or Wally and the Beaver?"
Actually, it was rabbit!jj who wrote this. Does changing a computer's 
name absolve you of responsibility for comments made on a previous computer?

> So, Mr. Oddjob, all you can see is those SS soldiers...

No, but I *can* see them. A cemetary where there were no SS soldiers would
be acceptable, not only to me, but to most of the protesting Jews and non-Jews
around the US and the world, I believe.

> Do YOU think that everyone who disagrees with 
> you should NOT have the right to live?  That's
> what you seem to be saying, since you deny that any tragedy whatsoever is
> represented by that cemetary full of unnecessarily dead people. 
> What gives you the idea that all those people wanted to be in
> the army. I modestly propose that most of them wanted  to be in
> an army about as much as the Jewish populace wanted to be in a concentration
> camp. 

I think this last sentence sums up alice!jj's ideas. There's
really nothing to add. If he really believes this, and I assume he
does, there's no point arguing with him. I guess he thinks
"death is death, no matter how you get there".

No retraction. I re-emphasize my previous article.

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