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From: gadfly@ihu1m.UUCP (Gadfly)
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Re: what does your management think of you?
Message-ID: <404@ihu1m.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 30-Apr-85 09:19:09 EDT
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Posted: Tue Apr 30 09:19:09 1985
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>> "...Most university-trained software experts who have never
>> practiced any business skill are not what DP needs. We have
>> created an army of experts who have trouble speaking and writing
>> english, busily solving business problems with logic that
>> completely ignores established business practices. It is
>> surprising that users hate their systems?

>> "...Programmer productivity and quality are a problem, but our
>> Unix/C generation of eunuchs is debugging with tools that were
>> primitive 15 years ago. Imagine tens of thousands of these
>> over-paid quasi-professionals all over the country whose main
>> debugging tool is the print statement. ..."

>> [Peter Harris, Executive Vice President, Compusci Corp., Santa
>> Clara, CA]

>> I suppose many of us don't find our jobs are really described as
>> "DP" except on a very general level. But anybody want to get
>> huffy about "trouble speaking and writing english" or "over-paid
>> quasi-professional" or "main debugging tool is the print
>> statement"? ...

>> L S Chabot 

You think he's wrong?  Look at the drivel that spews from net-nerd
after net-nerd.  And they're the literate ones.  As a class, we
hackers are very well paid but not very well-read.  It is great fun
to play all day and get a salary for it, but it's a trap, too.  Like
a kid in a sandbox, the borders of reality close in--the job defines
our entire universe.  A Boolean universe, with digital rules, where
all the bugs are identifiable (with enough printf's).  And thus we
become--if we weren't already--neurotic, narrow-minded pariahs who
revel in simple solutions to everything.  Present company excepted,
of course--computers is merely what I do, *NOT* who I am.
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