Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!mit-athena!jc From: jc@mit-athena.UUCP (John Chambers) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame,net.legal Subject: Re: personal defense Message-ID: <197@mit-athena.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Apr-85 05:48:10 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-athe.197 Posted: Fri Apr 26 05:48:10 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 3-May-85 04:46:33 EDT References: <352@ttidcc.UUCP> Organization: MIT Project Athena Lines: 22 Xref: watmath net.politics:8815 net.flame:9668 net.legal:1641 What's this about "weapons" implying "uncivilized"? There have been quite a lot of societies in which it was normal for large numbers (typically of free adult males) to routinely carry a weapon. Some of these considered themselves "civilized". (And some were even so considered by their neighbors. :-) On the other hand, there are some very uncivilized parts of the world right now (Chicago :-) where weapons are restricted to a small class, usually only police and bodyguards for the very rich. How about another suggestion: In a truly civilized society, nobody would care whether or not you were carrying a weapon. How about working on the problem (violence) rather than just talking about suppressing the symptoms (weapons)? -- John Chambers [...!decvax!mit-athena] He who has made no mistakes has probably made nothing at all.