Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Responsibility for the Holocaust: Reply to Saumya Debray Message-ID: <620@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-May-85 13:06:46 EDT Article-I.D.: whuxl.620 Posted: Fri May 3 13:06:46 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 4-May-85 02:03:05 EDT References: <3655@alice.UUCP> <396@enmasse.UUCP> <255@sbcs.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 42 Xref: watmath net.politics:8828 net.flame:9687 > Mark Roddy: > > As these people were feeding my relatives into the chimneys, I take > > personal offense at the suggestion that the german people should > > EVER be forgiven for what they did. > > > Give me a break! Do you -- and your children, and grandchildren, > and ... - take personal responsibility for what happened at My Lai? > -- > Saumya Debray I think we *all* have a responsibility to see that such events or similar events *never occur again*. In that vein I believe that is precisely one of the reasons that Reagan chose Bitburg as his site to visit: besides having a Cemetery with German soldiers (both Nazis and others) it is also one of major deployment sites for Pershing II nuclear missiles. As Helmut Kohl's party has an important election in this region coming up and Kohl has been totally supportive of the deployment of new nuclear weapons in Germany despite widespread public opposition, Reagan wants to repay this favor. While remembering the last Holocaust we should be thinking about how to prevent the possibility of another Holocaust which would be even worse: a nuclear war which would result in the deaths not of 6 million but of hundreds of millions of people and possibly the destruction of the whole human race. Is this not genocide of an order of magnitude even beyond that of Hitler? And what is the purpose of "reconciliation with the Germans"? To insure that the missile deployments go as planned and also get German support for the Start Wars program. Reminders of the last Holocaust might not go over too well given this aim when many Germans with conscience are opposing new missile deployments in their country to prevent a new and far worse Holocaust. Many Germans who were blamed for their neglect to do anything to prevent the Nazi Holocaust are now determined to try to prevent a nuclear holocaust. They do not want to be held responsible for the massacre of millions of innocent human beings again. The question is: remembering the results of the last Holocaust are we going to do anything to prevent another Holocaust from nuclear war? tim sevener whuxl!orb