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From: mike@whuxl.UUCP (BALDWIN)
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Subject: Re: Paladins
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Date: Fri, 3-May-85 04:09:49 EDT
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FLAME ON***!
> ..., you're not allowed to do any of the obvious things that
> Parties resort to: burning Oche Jellies, killing helpless CE creatures -
> most of the really valuable decisions in our Party had to be made
> while I was incapacitated.

Say What?! you have got to be kidding! Ochre jellies are NON- intelligent!
I can just imagine my DM telling me
"your paladin inhales deeply killing 46,732 microbes which so offends your
deity that you are fried on the spot"
and as for killing helpless chaotic evil monsters, what the h**l else are
you supposed to do?! send them to the home for wayward baddies?
be real.  You kill them (as in dead).

> The party once found some poison (gasp, horror), obviously we couldn't
> use it, so we gave it to an NPC to sell, as a bonus.
> For this generosity, my P'hood was suspended, I had to spend a
> considerable amount of time wearing hair undergarments and beating
> myself with birches. I very nearly had to get Atoned as well.

see previous flames on the stupidity of assuming that paladins
have judeo-christian ethics. beating yourself with switches and
wearing hair coats is strictly medieval roman-catholic, the same
ones who burnt millions of people at the stake for witchcraft 
(read being different).  perhaps your paladin should have destroyed
the poison, perhaps not, but certainly not his paladinhood.
I HATE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT LAWFUL GOOD IS LAWFUL STUPID!!!
Paladins can be intelligent, reasonable people.

> On another occasion we were lumbered with half a dozen Hobgoblin
> prisonners. We couldn't keep them, but should we release them -
> no, they're intrinsically evil, and would rush out raping and
> killing innocent peasants the minute we let them loose. So we
> killed them (humanely, like dangerous animals). Whups, there goes
> the Paladinhood again.

ARGGH!! see previous comment about home for wayward nasties!
try something fun like asking your DM what in the H**L he thought
you should do?! I strongly suspect that he didn't know, because he
assumes that paladins adhere to an insane code of ethics that is
impossible to follow(Lawful Stupid).  I would have long since given
up playing a paladin in that campaign because obviously the DM is
using them to illustrate nothing more than his belief that the
judeo-christian ethic is insane and untenable in real life.
FLAME OFF***

anyway, my sincere sympathies for having to put up with this nonsense
(though I wonder at your persistance).  I also agree with most of
the other articles that paladins should not be based solely on a
judeo-christian ethic.  I can well imagine a Zen Paladin.
"what is the sound of one orc dying?"
"Leather boots" :-)


Yeah, well, whatever