Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!daveb From: daveb@reed.UUCP (David Billstrom) Newsgroups: net.jobs Subject: Employing non-U.S. citizens Message-ID: <1394@reed.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Apr-85 12:21:56 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.1394 Posted: Sat Apr 27 12:21:56 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Apr-85 23:44:22 EDT Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 23 I just left a company where I hired a foreign citizen (Holland) and brought him into the United States. I found the process very time- consuming (5 months from offer to arrival) and an education in dealing with bureaucracy. I too had to prove that he supplied expertise or ability not available from a United States citizen. This wasn't difficult, since he had a couple of years experience working with our source code, as an employee of one of our major customers -- Expert knowledge that less than say 30 people world-wide have. Of course, the INS doesn't know enough about software to question whether another person (U.S.) could learn about the code in a finite time (I'd guess 1 year). Two things I experienced: The INS made numerous paperwork processing mistakes, misinterpreting the statements on the applications, etc. At one point they refused it for the 3rd time, and sent it back -- it was someone elses' application! I finally enlisted the help of a local congressman, and things were resolved within a week. Secondly, even with the intervention of the congressman, they pushed very hard on the question of permanent residence. They definitely do not want applications for permanent residence to come via the temporary work Visa. Fortunately, this man doesn't want to stay more than 2 years (the maximum).