Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!brl-tgr!wmartin From: wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) Newsgroups: net.college,net.cse,net.micro,net.micro.pc Subject: Re: Univ. of VT chooses AT&T pc's Message-ID: <10207@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Thu, 25-Apr-85 13:47:41 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.10207 Posted: Thu Apr 25 13:47:41 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Apr-85 02:46:11 EST References: <376@uvm-cs.UUCP> <285@h-sc1.UUCP><387@ho95b.UUCP><5784@duke.UUCP> Reply-To: wmartin@brl-bmd.UUCP Distribution: net Organization: USAMC ALMSA Lines: 58 Xref: linus net.college:634 net.cse:301 net.micro:8814 net.micro.pc:3425 >>> > Burlington, Vermont; .... Incoming freshmen ...will be required to >>> > purchase [AT&T 6300 PC] starting in the fall of 1985. Students will >>> What if they can't afford it? >>> marie desjardins >> >It's not a bad thing if you are asked to purchase or have a PC of any kind; >they seem to be forcing the students to buy one brand. Its like forcing me to >buy only a Honda Civic or whatever because UVM cannot provide parking space >for other cars. When one spends that kind of money one should be free to >purchase any hardware within limits. Or is it true, students have no rights ? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Balu Raman CCP, Duke University,NC | [I thought everybody already knew this! :-] I think there are a couple issues in addition to those expressed above: 1) Anybody going to a technical/engineering school these days or in the near future will already have either spent a lot of time with computers or bought their own computer. While there is something to be said in favor of forcing an early familiarity with having to move between machines and learning many different kinds of OS's and environments, I fear that a school adopting this approach will have to waste much time forcing each (or at least most) student to UNLEARN their already-acquired computer skills to use the school-standard system. Also, for those who already have their own machines, having to buy another can be a great imposition. Will the school help them dispose of their previous systems, or accept their hardware in trade for tuition? 2) The obvious reason for standardizing is to allow distribution of software, lessons on diskettes, communications, etc. Can't this be achieved by FUNCTIONAL specifications instead of mandating specific hardware brands? While quantity buying can cut prices on the hardware, this also locks the community into total dependence on a specific vendor. Competition can never help you when the inevitable future price cuts occur. Again, using functional specs instead of explicit hardware lists can help in this situation. 3) Those out there concerned about software theft and unauthorized duplication/copying should look at this sort of thing with terror in their hearts. I can't think of a situation more likely to encourage such practices. 4) Not too far down the line, the school and alumni will have an enormous stock of now-obsolete systems and software. Since so much of the school's operation and practices will by then depend on living in a totally-automated, PC-dominated environment, having to make periodic mass changes to keep up with the improvements in the computer industry (which a school will HAVE to do to stay competitive) will cost so much and cause such disruption that every n years the school will, in effect, disintegrate into chaos for some months while everyone flails about getting changed over. (I forsee some fun garage sales, though...) Doomsaying as ever, Will Martin USENET: seismo!brl-bmd!wmartin or ARPA/MILNET: wmartin@almsa-1.ARPA