Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aicchi.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!aicchi!bentley From: bentley@aicchi.UUCP (Bentley) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: *86 crocks Message-ID: <457@aicchi.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Apr-85 10:36:58 EDT Article-I.D.: aicchi.457 Posted: Mon Apr 29 10:36:58 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Apr-85 05:38:35 EDT References: <2114@seismo.UUCP> Reply-To: bentley@aicchi.UUCP (Bentley) Organization: Analysts International Corp; Chicago Branch Lines: 26 Summary: I'll attest to that! We converted SCICARDS to run on a dedicated 68000. (WE, meaning WE at SC when I was working there; I'm now working for AIC). SCICARDS[tm SC] is a five megabyte module that likes to envelope a good portion of a 68000's address space, and it prefers to have a couple meg of physical memory to do it. Dont ask how we did the memory management, but we did have two 68Ks... it was technically impossible to downport the source code to any Intel architecture. We did do a study some time ago where we took a small (1 Megabyte) program (in FORTRAN), trimmed it with BIG shears, and stuffed it into a standard Intel development system. For various reasons, both software and hardware, it was no go. The 286 is a relatively recent development with, so far, an unstable beginning (my view of the PC AT). It may be that the 286 is faster than a 68000 -- for small programs. I'd like to SEE a big program run on a 286. Meanwhile, the guys who make popular 68000-based machines in this country (read: Apple) think 512K is a tremendous amount of memory for the mere user. HAR HAR HAR. It now costs 200 dollars for 1 MEGABYTE of RAM, 150 ns, parity checked (even!). For a machine that costs 3200 dollars (list?), 100 dollars isn't much to spend on the main memory...!!! I'm using 5 dollars per 256K/1 dynamic ram prices that are floating around. Other prices (at Dayton Hamfest) were 5.50 and 6.00...one guy was actually trying to get 12.00 for his...they must be GOOD. mike bentley (ihnp4!aicchi!bentley)