Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hou2f.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!hou2f!jja From: jja@hou2f.UUCP (J.ARLETH) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: 286 vs. 68k Message-ID: <475@hou2f.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 17:41:19 EDT Article-I.D.: hou2f.475 Posted: Thu May 2 17:41:19 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 3-May-85 05:22:36 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 45 >Did any of the benchmarks you refered to happen to require more than 64K >of data? Probably not, because you would be ashamed of the results instead >of proud of them if that were the case. 80*86's make nice LSI-11 replacements, >but I wish Intel would stop trying to convince people that are actually useful >for real work. Todays jobs require more than 64K of data space, and the 80*86 >is useless for that. Maybe if Intel designs a new chip instead of upgrading >the 4004, you might hit upon something good. Then again, maybe not, the 432 >never quite made it. So I guess Intel should stick to doing 4004 upgrades. >You will always have a market full of people more interested in quick delivery >and backwards compatibility, and who don't care at all about performance. > >Why am I flaming so hard at Intel? Because I own a 186 based system, and I'm >sick and tired of working around its limitations. >-- > > John McNamee > ..!decvax!philabs!sbcs!bnl44!jpm > jpm@BNL44.ARPA > > Yeah!! What he said. It is actually amusing to look at the benchmarks that have been published comparing these two processors. Intel insists on either comparing the two processors of the same clock rate or comparing short string copy programs. Another set of benchmarks that I've seen are based on a number of COLBOL programs. And another thing. Backward compatability and state-of-the-art performance are obvious trade offs. Intel's 286 (has a mode which) is backwards compatabile with its 8086 processor. It paid a price for this. Motorola paid a different price (software incompatability) by designing the 68000 without 6809 compatability constraints. This is why it yields better performance for most 'real' jobs. Jim Arleth hou2f!jja ...The usual disclaimers.