Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdchema.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdchema!bam From: bam@sdchema.UUCP (Bret Marquis) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Gay magazines Message-ID: <383@sdchema.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-May-85 11:35:06 EDT Article-I.D.: sdchema.383 Posted: Fri May 3 11:35:06 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 6-May-85 00:21:04 EDT Reply-To: bang!blia!eric (Eric Allmanam) Organization: U.C. San Diego Chemistry Dept Lines: 35 I would argue that the "problem" with "gay-oriented literature" is that it is inherently sexually oriented. To put it another way, the only thing that really makes gays different from straights is (as a psychologist friend of mine once put it) sucking and fucking. When I read gay magazines, I have implicitly stated that I am interested in whatever it is that separates gays from straights: sex. When straight men read Playboy they have made the same statement, and although Playboy makes a big deal of having "legitimate" articles, they still have sexually explicit centerfolds and advertisments. Of course, advertisers appealing to a gay-oriented market try to make their ads as interesting as possible to that clientele. What can you assume is appealing to the widest possible cross-section of gay men? There seem to be two problems here. First, the straight world does not assume that what they see in a "straight" magazine such as Hustler represents the entire straight world since they have a lot of contact with the straight world, but since most heterosexuals have a limited contact with the gay world, every "gay" magazine is a major data point. Second, I think that if you look around a little more you will see flagrant sexuality all around you: gym ads featuring scantily clad women; Pepsi is the new generation (of bimbos?); sexy women licking their lips in cars, on couches, while peering into refrigerators; billboards with the writing superimposed on the, ah, delicate portions of the anatomy...... need I go on? The straight world is in some sense desensitized to the straight sexuality surrounding them, but an equal level of gay sexuality seems "blatant" to them. eric -- Bret Marquis (sdcsvax,ihnp4)!bang!bam Bang World Communication Center - San Diego.