Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!pesnta!amdcad!decwrl!daemon From: daemon@decwrl.UUCP (The devil himself) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: A correction to my drugs and rape posting Message-ID: <2074@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-May-85 10:20:41 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.2074 Posted: Wed May 8 10:20:41 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 9-May-85 03:32:32 EDT Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 58 This is sort of an apology fo my posting of a couple of days ago reg- arding drugs and sex against one's will. I think that this would be a good subject to continue discussing but in my case "I'VE BEEN HAD" It took me a couple of days for certain aspects of the situation to sink in. I'm sor- ry that I took up network space telling D's tale of woe, since in the light of day, it now seems to be a fabrication to cover himself. Can we shift the conversation to why so many gay men lie. This subject has always eaten away at me. Ok! I visited him at his place and he told me the story of his nightmare. He asked me to give him a backrub, to which I agreed. He claimed to have not showered for three days and was seriously physicly abused. He was laying naked on the bed as I rubbed his back. Funny! he smelled as fresh and clean as if he had just showered. There were also no marks of any kind on his body. He claimed to have been seriously anally abused. If this had been the case, then he would not have let me touch that area; instead he layed there moaning and got quite aroused. I would think that anyone who had been through what he had would not even want to think of sex, but he was ready and willing; Hmmmmmm! Didn't hit me then since he was playing on my sympathies and I felt bad for him. Well I left and he promised to call the next day. I kept getting, "He's not here" from the roomate but I knew he was since I've seen him screen in- comming calls. The robbery part also sounds sort of fishy. Another net.motss reader shared a story about someone he knew who made up a song and dance similar to D's. He actually pissed away the money partying and had to cover his ass. D has been avoiding me for the past couple of weeks. Said he was sick and a friend saw him out at the bars, etc. I also think that he may have given me the gift that keeps on giving and will have to get checked out. This all fits in with the date that he first started avioding me. If it turns out positive then he's the culprit since I haven't seen anyone else since quite a while before I met him. Right now I feel VERY angry that I've been had the way that I have. I have seen soooooo many gay men pull this sort of stuff on myself and others. Right now I feel like a fool for falling for such a load of bull- shit that I could scream or kick his door down. I suppose I should have known; he was very into drugs and the bar scene, which I am not. I fell for the man and got burned which reminds me of the old disco song "Hit and Run Lover" WHY! WHY! do gay men have to pull off these lies, bullshit stories and games. It's enough to make me want to go straight or join a monestary. I hear this same complaint from so many other HONEST people. Why do these leeches attach themselves to GOOD people, suck the life outta them, then move on, gain your trust then pull the rug out from under you? My roomate tells me to forget him but I'm too pissed. I guess the old addage "Good love liberates, bad love binds" holds true. If he in fact was afraid of his feel- ings for me, then why couldn't he talk to me about it instead of playing the evasive lie game? I've always been an open and honest person and have gotten burned before. Friends tell me to change and become just like the rest of these jerks. I'm sorry, but I cannot lower my standards for my own personal behavior. Does this mean that I'll always be alone, since I don't play the game...I hope not! Anyone care to chat about experiences they've had where they ended up hooked like some tuna? Also, I'de appreciate anyone sharing feelings of anger, betrayal, etc that they felt while on the recieving end of such a situation and how they dealt with it. D once told me "You're so nice, I really don't deserve a man like you" He's right, he doesn't!!! Ray (burned in Boston)