Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!tektronix!orca!shark!davew From: davew@shark.UUCP (Dave Williams) Newsgroups: net.movies Subject: Re: First Color Films (Oz) - facts is facts Message-ID: <1378@shark.UUCP> Date: Mon, 6-May-85 14:55:42 EDT Article-I.D.: shark.1378 Posted: Mon May 6 14:55:42 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 8-May-85 03:32:34 EDT References: <1823@zehntel.UUCP> <1110016@acf4.UUCP> <897@trwatf.UUCP> <6588@ucbvax.ARPA> <158@idmi-cc.UUCP> Reply-To: davew@shark.UUCP (Dave Williams) Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Graphic Workstations Division Lines: 42 Summary: "The facts ma'am, just the facts." In article <158@idmi-cc.UUCP> root@idmi-cc.UUCP (Admin) writes: >> About Technicolor being "discovered in the middle of filming" the Wizard >> of Oz: Something nobody seems to realize is that films are almost never >> photographed in plot-order. > >Your point is a good one but does not change the fact that TWoO's color >process was scrapped about 1/3 of the way through the filming in favor >of the 'revolutionary new process' Technicolor. Facts, after all, is facts :-) *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH THE FACTS *** I went to the library and checked in "The Film Encyclopedia" by Ephraim Katz about Technicolor. Some of the facts stated: o The original Technicolor process was developed in 1917 by Kalmus and Canfield. They produced a movie in that same year using the process. The original process used two strips of film exposed in a special camera and projected using two projectors running in sync with red and green filters. The process was improved upon and a Douglas Fairbanks picture was shot in 1926 with this process. o The 3 strip process was developed in 1932. Several shorts were made with this technique. In 1935 "Becky Sharp" was made. It was the first full length feature to use the 3 strip process. 1939 was a watershed year for Technicolor as both GWTW and TWoO were released in Technicolor. There was no mention of any other changes to the process, although I'm sure they kept improving the dyes, etc. I have seen clips of "Becky Sharp" and of course GWTW and the colors looked as good as that in TWoO. If you have some facts pertaining to the re-filming of Oz I would be interested in seeing them presented here. Until then I will have to remain skeptical. -- Dave Williams Tektronix, Inc. Graphic Workstations Division "The 6000 Family" "The workstations that made Wilsonville famous."