Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site osiris.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!aplvax!osiris!jcp From: jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Bad behavior and music criticism Message-ID: <287@osiris.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 10:52:24 EDT Article-I.D.: osiris.287 Posted: Thu May 2 10:52:24 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 4-May-85 07:27:37 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Johns Hopkins Hospital Lines: 47 > > But your opinions are moosepoop! > > "Go stick your head in a pig" > > Doug Alan > mit-eddie!nessus > Nessus@MIT-MC.ARPA > > Now, see ? This sort of thing is not at all useful. Mr. Alan blasts my opinions up and down and sidewise but cannot even manage to be reasonable himself. Instead he carries on rather childishly in a way that is not going to make me or anyone else take him seriously. Alot of that goes on in the network - folks do alot of name-calling instead of being rational and even-tempered. The one interesting thing about his message was the long quotes from numerous music critics to support his views. I know too many rock critics personally to take any of them terribly seriously, I'm afraid. Some critics are good and fair-minded, and others are very prejudiced (which they often don't admit). Robert Christgau has a particular prejudice against the music of the Police, which appears to stem from Stuart Copeland's dad having been in the CIA, and not because of anything in their music. This obviously isn't fair. Critics aren't god, fer sher, though they can give you at least some idea of what music is out there, and what *they* think about it. The opinions of critics and popular opinion often diverges radically. R.E.M. (great group, by the way) was the critic's number one pick the year their first EP (and later, their album "Murmur") came out, but the listening public seems to have missed them entirely. The same with Los Lobos. On the other hand, alot of critics have panned Bruce Springsteen's last two albums, but that seems to be more because it's become fashionable not to like Springsteen in print than for any other reason. (I think some critics write more to please or annoy other critics than for their readers, not to mention those critics who lift whole sentences and paragraphs from their colleagues !) Just out of interest's sake, what music publications do most netters read ? And what critics do you put most stock in ? What would you like to see different ? -- jcpatilla "'Get stuffed !', the Harlequin replied ..."