Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unccvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!unccvax!dsi From: dsi@unccvax.UUCP (Dataspan Inc) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Jethro Tull retraction and flame Message-ID: <194@unccvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 11:37:39 EDT Article-I.D.: unccvax.194 Posted: Thu May 2 11:37:39 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 5-May-85 03:18:45 EDT References: <268@osiris.UUCP> Organization: UNC-Charlotte Lines: 57 Bullcookies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jethro Tull can be called a lot of things but relatively unoriginal? How about your article: every Tull hater at one time, or another, has always pinned the blame for their annoyance on Ian ripping off Roland Kirk. Steve Simels, in Sterno Review, legitimizes his disdain for Tull quite frequently in print using this approach, for example. I'll admit, "This Was" doesn't make the Accuphase and ADS's sound quite as impressive as Kajagoogoo (or "Shar-de"). A Passion Play just isn't as comprehensible as the intellectual depth of Murray Head. And how can you possibly get 22 minutes/hr of commercial avails when "This Was" is playing? On the other hand, Sade' is a ripoff of Boz Scaggs (no need toaaaaaask) --it is indeed so wonderful to have ersatz glitzoid ultra-slick production numbers backing up someone singing under the influence of a giant phlem-wad stuck in their throat. Boz perfected this about 10 years ago! I suppose I should feel patently inadequate as a human being for turning off all the lights and permitting the "My God" side of "Aqualung" to positively reinforce those behaviours which seem to occur on the side of my head that "understands" music nonverbally. Instead, for real intellectual stimulation, one should sit and listen to those two boys who tattle on each other's sexual idiosyncrasies, living at Home like Real Men at 21, singing about the Real Problems of Social Intercourse, its locus being the Dance-Floor. After all, Tull fans have things completely wrong; objectivist philosophy and negative utopias exist in those nondescript books in the University stacks, and songs longer than 3:20 always come on Daddy's Beethoven RCA Red Seals. None of this bears any resemblance to the real world of how one's stance should be to show the world that you and your beau are really " beau are really "together." Seriously, Jethro Tull does offer at worst "singing into a flute," sometimes, the lyrical themes are a bit trite; but the musical part of this brain just "understands emotionally" what the band is trying to communicate, it may be different than the "meaning" of the lyrics. Call it old-fart- listening-to-10-year-old-records attenuated behaviour; but try as I might, I just can't extract anything from Madonna or Sade' other than a vehicle for pseudosexual stimulation. Then again, Mona and I have never seriously considered how our body posture whilst queueing for tickets at O'Hare communicated our "togetherness" to the Smooth Operator or Wham set. After all, some people don't have millions of dollars from singing about this stuff, and certainly wouldn't live at home if they did. WHILE THIS ARGUMENT CANNOT BE PHILOSOPHICALLY DEFENDED (as has been attempted numerous times in this forum) Jethro Tull does seem to reinforce "critical listening behaviour" far more than Frankie Goes to Hollywood...it all depends what you're into... --- --- --- David Anthony Sr. Video Engineer DataSpan, Inc. .