Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site petsd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!bellcore!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!cjh From: cjh@petsd.UUCP (Chris Henrich) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Origin of expletive Message-ID: <500@petsd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Apr-85 16:49:48 EST Article-I.D.: petsd.500 Posted: Tue Apr 23 16:49:48 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Apr-85 21:38:39 EST References: <1260001@acf4.UUCP> Organization: Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls, N.J. Lines: 48 [] > I was told that 'fuck' was placed on placards that were put before unhappy > souls in the stocks and that it stood for: for use of carnal knowledge. > Is this true? > > Hedley. No. "Fuck" is one of the oldest words in English, going back to times when most speakers of the language were illiterate and wouldn't have understood a round-about phrase like "for use of carnal knowledge" if it had been read aloud to them. Earlier forms of the word, with cognates in other Germanic languages, are something like "ficken"; I think the Indo-european root is "PHUG-". When you go back that far it is related to lots of other words. The earliest meaning (if memory serves) of 'fuck' is something like the verb 'to plant.' As in, "Tomorrow we have to fuck all the turnips in the north field." Regards, Chris -- Full-Name: Christopher J. Henrich UUCP: ..!(cornell | ariel | ukc | houxz)!vax135!petsd!cjh US Mail: MS 313; Perkin-Elmer; 106 Apple St; Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 Phone: (201) 758-7288 From vax135!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!acf4!hkr4627 Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site petsd.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf4.UUCP Path: petsd!vax135!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!acf4!hkr4627 From: hkr4627@acf4.UUCP (Hedley K. J. Rainnie) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Origin of expletive Message-ID: <1260001@acf4.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Apr-85 23:19:00 EST Date-Received: Sat, 20-Apr-85 00:32:33 EST Organization: New York University Lines: 5 I was told that 'fuck' was placed on placards that were put before unhappy souls in the stocks and that it stood for: for use of carnal knowledge. Is this true? Hedley.