Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihu1m.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!ihu1m!gadfly From: gadfly@ihu1m.UUCP (Gadfly) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: tuna fish (english horns, actually) Message-ID: <401@ihu1m.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Apr-85 09:53:59 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1m.401 Posted: Mon Apr 29 09:53:59 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Apr-85 05:29:58 EDT References: <2550@drutx.UUCP> <395@ihu1m.UUCP> <451@utai.UUCP> <386@zinfandel.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 26 -- > In article <451@utai.UUCP> gh@utai.UUCP (Graeme Hirst) writes: > >In Australia, we always used to call them Chinese gooseberries, > >which makes sense as they aren't gooseberries and don't > >(I understand) originate in China. > > > Well, heck, that's OK: "English horns" are neither horns nor English! > > Any more self-contradictory words? > > Berry Kercheval The english horn (which looks a lot like an oboe, but sounds a fifth lower) got its name when the French "cor angle'" (lit: "angled horn"-- the instrument actually had a bend in it, though the modern version is straight with a curve only in the bocal) was confused with the near homophone "cor anglais". As a wind instrument, it certainly qualifies as a horn in the musical sense. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 29 Apr 85 [10 Floreal An CXCIII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7188 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!iwsl8!ken *** ***