Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!tektronix!zehntel!dual!mordor!ut-sally!utastro!bill From: bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Re: Why Creation? Message-ID: <31@utastro.UUCP> Date: Sun, 21-Apr-85 09:02:43 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.31 Posted: Sun Apr 21 09:02:43 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Apr-85 00:13:50 EST References: <7187@watdaisy.UUCP> <189@spp1.UUCP> <541@cadovax.UUCP> <293@scgvaxd.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 35 > In article <541@cadovax.UUCP> keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) writes: > > "Scientific creationism" is a self-contradictory, nonsense phrase > >precisely because it cannot be falsified. I can envision observations > >and experiments that would disprove any evolutionary theory I know, but > >I cannot imagine what potential data could lead creationists to abandon > >their beliefs. Unbeatable systems are dogma, not science. " > > > >Keith Doyle > ># {ucbvax,ihnp4,decvax}!trwrb!cadovax!keithd > > This is not true. If science could observe a transmutation, this would > disprove creation. Since many evolutionists have abandoned gradualism, > this may not be unreasonable! Also, if scientists could produce life > in a laboratory (not just the building blocks of life, but LIFE), > this would also disprove creation. As creation holds that only the > creator can create. > If the fossils can produce a clear cut transitional species, this > may also do the job. > > Though creation as a religious belief is not falsifiable, > creation SCIENCE is falsifiable. > Sorry, but no. Putting on my Creationist hat :-) I could respond that "God made it *appear* that a transmutation had occurred, but in fact it was just a miracle He performed". You see, you can't get out of miracles when you explain everything by an almightly deity. -- "Men never do evil so cheerfully and so completely as when they do so from religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (USnail) {allegra,ihnp4}!{ut-sally,noao}!utastro!bill (uucp) bill%utastro.UTEXAS@ut-sally.ARPA (ARPANET)