Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!fortune!brower From: brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Keebler Chronicles (6 of 7) Message-ID: <5214@fortune.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Apr-85 16:29:16 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.5214 Posted: Thu Apr 25 16:29:16 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Apr-85 03:48:10 EST References: <940@uwmacc.UUCP> <554@cadovax.UUCP> Reply-To: brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard brower) Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 21 Summary: In article <554@cadovax.UUCP> keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) writes: >seem however, that creationists in general LOVE to dig up these ideas that >the scientific community has abandoned in favor of better ones. Certainly >these ideas provide plenty of grist for the creationist mill. However, this >may be the single most significant reason the evolutionists see the >creationists as little more than hecklers or rabble rousers. If one is to >argue effectively against evolution, one must spend some time to determine >what evolutionist claims are accepted by the mainstream scientific community, >and not digging up old rejected ideas and presenting them as current. >Remember, you may be trying to sell your ideas to the scientific community >(maybe you're not, and just trying to propagandize the public?). Actually, since the entire basis of "scientific" creationism (or any of the other brands of creationism that have been presented here on this network) seems to be pulling these old, outdated, and debunked theories (which debunking was generally done by scientists), and using these as their arguments for creationism. It doesn't follow, even if these theories were current, that debunking one theory justifies some other theory anyway, -- Richard A. Brower Fortune Systems {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower