Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-lymph!arndt From: arndt@lymph.DEC Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Pathetic? Message-ID: <1852@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Apr-85 00:19:38 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.1852 Posted: Fri Apr 26 00:19:38 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Apr-85 06:16:39 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 29 Padraig Houlahan says it's 'pathetic' to point out the error of past evolutionary arguments (he references mention of embryo development as an argument for evolution is no longer used and to point that out is to en effect to beat a dead horse) since no one believes them any longer. But this is merely the same kind of argument religious people us to point out to non believers when they, the non believers hold up silly notions of what the believers really believe! Such as the utterly stupid idea that God has to be explained - who/what caused God? Many uninformed believers in evolution, just like the uniformed unbelievers in God, still hold to outmoded or bogus ideas to bolster their convictions. WHAT MANY EVOLUTIONISTS ON THIS NET SEEM TO FAIL TO REALIZE IS THE THE 'ENVIRONMENT' IN WHICH THE 'DEBATE' ABOUT EVOLUTION IS TAKING PLACE IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY IS ONE IN WHICH EVOLUTION IS SEEN TO HAVE CARRIED THE DAY, AND SO IT IS RIGHT, AS A TECHNIQUE, TO CRITICISE EVOLUTION POINT BY POINT IN MAKING A CASE FOR CREATIONISM. As has been pointed out here several times, while the exhalted presenses on the net may not believe any longer in the development of the embryo as a argument for evolution it is still an 'evidence' with much of the 'great unwashed' public school herd. Still in some textbooks used, etc. Perhaps the most that can be said against mentioning the idea on the net is that most HERE no longer use it. But pathetic? . . . no. Regards, Ken Arndt