Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!scgvaxd!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Re: Why Creation? Message-ID: <130@kontron.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Apr-85 01:56:57 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.130 Posted: Fri Apr 26 01:56:57 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 29-Apr-85 07:06:50 EDT References: <7187@watdaisy.UUCP>, <189@spp1.UUCP> <541@cadovax.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 38 Evolution and creationism... ok, let's not be so polar in our views. A third, and personally held view is that of theistic evolution. I am not a scientist, but the evidence for changes in a gene frequency in the gene pool (the scientific definition of evolution) is overwhelming... that species are not static, and that organisms have adapted to adverse environments with physical changes. Whew. Now, the point: the overall effect of this are creatures that are wonderful in their design, and the planet has an intricate ecosystem that no amount of time could just happen to produce. Thus, evolution could be viewed as a natural law, set into motion by a higher Intelligence (Whom I prefer to call God as revealed in the Bible). Now, I do not believe that every time a volcano goes, "Boom" that God was behind that. Nor do I believe that every disease, falling tree, or puppy getting run over by a car is an "Act of God." No. Any logical engineer sets into motion certain causes and effects that he will not constantly oversee. That frees up his time and mental energy to worry and work with the important matters.. Example: the brain stem has cer- tain functions that are not consciously controlled, like breathing, or typing (after you've been typing for awhile). That neocortex is "free" from dealing with these fuctions, and worry about the important input, like philosophical debates about God!! Now: God set up natural law to run the universe like a watch... with consistency of effect (or we'd have no laws), esthetic beauty and form (like any good design)--He is free if you will, to deal with the most important matter: His created beings- us- who constantly debate His reality. He is aware that the sparrow fell, but He is concerned with the fall of His children. Evolution, gravity, the speed of light, etc.: all good engineering designs that allow us to live in a world that works, and can be very pleasing, if we celebrate our place as created beings. End of sermon.... I'm kidding. I am just so upset by seeing E's and C's in such opposite corners. Science (the knowledge of the design and how it works) and creationism (the belief in a a loving Creator) are not incompatible. Thanks for reading this... By the way, the header may say "Clayton Cramer", but his wife is responsible for this statement.