Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mcnc.mcnc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!bch From: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron Howes) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Not Surprising, Twice Message-ID: <515@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Apr-85 01:06:55 EDT Article-I.D.: mcnc.515 Posted: Mon Apr 29 01:06:55 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 1-May-85 02:52:39 EDT References: <982@uwmacc.UUCP> Reply-To: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron Howes) Distribution: net Organization: North Carolina Educational Computing Service Lines: 37 Summary: In article <982@uwmacc.UUCP> dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) writes: >As far as definitions go, for anything to fit any definition the >object must have the features expected on the basis of the definition. >This is hardly startling, or profound. There is not point to or value >in definitions otherwise. You might not like the definition. That is >another question, however. I think that was precisely *my* point. Creationists claim there are no transitional forms. When transitional forms are pointed out they say "Well, that isn't a transitional form..." I have, on previous occasions, tried to elicit from creationists exactly what they would expect a tran- sitional form on the reptile-bird continuum to be -- if not the sorts of things that we find in the fossil record. I have yet to get an answer, reasonable or otherwise. Methinks they expect a unicorn...(it's a whole lot safer if nothing can meet the criterion.) > >A song and dance; an assertion of a large amount of evidence coupled >with a failure to give any. > Well, unlike some I am not going to list THE CASE FOR EVOLUTION -- 1E12 classes of evidence. Come visit me. I can point you to several hundred linear feet of books that constitute evidence. Do you deny that such a volume of evidence exists or are you just playing rhetorical games? > | >Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois --+-- > | >"Danger signs, a creeping independence" | -- Byron C. Howes ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch